Actually there is north and south pole according to planets n stars n all, they can measure an up and down using that
๐ 52026/09/27
@worm_lessYouTube
But why?
๐ 02026/09/27
@thundermolloyYouTube
The shifts are just orienting themselves relative to the galactic accretion discs angle. Most star systems planets orbit in line with that disc anyhow. Or did no one here pay attention during physics class when they started talking about interstellar physics?
๐ 1072026/09/27
@brromoYouTube
They do that on purpose for aura
๐ 142026/09/27
@benbayne-davies2397YouTube
If youโre wondering how he eats and breathes, and other science facts, then repeat to yourself โItโs just a show, I should really just relax.โ
๐ 02026/09/27
@TheBigMagnetYouTube
Exceptions: Babylon 5 and The Expanse
๐ 02026/09/27
@Botaccount31YouTube
1. The "disk" you're referring is still 1400 light years tall along the spirals, and ~18000-23000 light years tall around the bulge.
2. My highschool physics class introduced newtons laws, universal gravitation, and friction. We didn't talk about no Neil De'Grasse Tyson Ph.D research.
3. Once again: Movies do this for convenience. They aren't having two ships meet in the middle of a virtually infinite empty ocean because the waves just so happened to push the ships in the same direction. The director did it because it'd be a god damned boring fucking movie otherwise.
๐ 92026/09/27
@ras1nloopsYouTube
there might be specific "space" rules, like u cant go into planet 6513-93eghj and colonize the iglooians that live there, or invade their privacy so they can evolve without human intervention, so u can only travel on specific approved highwaysf
๐ 02026/09/27
@BlahDehBlahYouTube
It's because the people doing all of the special effects are so used to being on earth where planes have a definite up and down. When planes fly with one another they're all in the same orientation. When making a movie that bias to make all the space places the same way up is hard to shake. And, honestly, do they even need to? Who cares?
๐ 02026/09/27
@NT-sm5jkYouTube
Accretion disks can be oriented in any direction start in that direction and someone may be almost upright to you just tilted while you look tilted to them
๐ 12026/09/27
@0allegedlylostYouTube
There's a reason we only go in one direction with space travel even within our solar system. Turns out, we're all moving really, really fast through space, so it's difficult to come out of that or go against it. Locally, the universe is kinda self-orienting.
๐ 02026/09/27
@michaelmiller2210YouTube
planets don't really orbit on the same plane as the galactic disk. The solar systems orbital plane is tilted 60 degrees relative to the galactic plane
Also I just noticed you said accretion disk instead of galactic plane. An accretion disk is when orbitting matter is losing angular momentum to friction with other orbitting matter, there are thousands of these inside galaxies, all at different angles, so it's not a great measure of orientation. Even using the central black holes accretion disk isn't great because it's not easy to see, so you should just use the galactic plane. And there is no "galactic accretion disk," that just doesn't exist
๐ 42026/09/27
@Sharpspider543YouTube
โ@worm_less the vast majority of space battles happen in some kind of group battle so the answer to why is pretty simple you need to tell your friends where the enemies are and what they are doing so by orienting everyone at that same point it helps that communication immensely
๐ 12026/09/27
@McClainJYouTube
What if it is just considered common courtesy to align your tilt with people you meet?
๐ 372026/09/27
@alejotassile6441YouTube
So you seriously think the axis of evil wouldn't be used, or the axis of the galaxy
๐ 02026/09/27
@killerbunny7206YouTube
Chivalry of space combat demands that you don't cowardly leave the plane of battle. You can be a bit off, but flying a loop is basically a space war crime.
๐ 02026/09/27
@OrcDeveloperYouTube
Space does have an up and down.
The galaxy is rather flat disc shaped, so is the rest of the observable universe
๐ 02026/09/27
@freddhendriks5870YouTube
Thats easy somehow you need cohesion in a fight one way and especially naval combat is strict to adherence we still use the old trick of crossing the t if needed when you run out of missiles
๐ 02026/09/27
@pokums08YouTube
We don't live on a microscope slide, bro
๐ 02026/09/27
@ashlynnengel2134YouTube
Yet again, another win for The Expanse, where the ships are designed with real physics in mind and the maneuvers done are simultaneously realistic and beautiful
๐ 72026/09/27
@fionam5707YouTube
Ender's game logic
๐ 02026/09/27
@AJ1770sYouTube
When you see the shin you point towards the ship
Also, the engines are usually in the back
๐ 12026/09/28
@ArBiT685YouTube
> They meet each other head on
Well yes. The navigation officers can plot courses to make this happen.
๐ 12026/09/28
@dogguy8603YouTube
Were able to meet spacecraft head on when it comes to docking with the ISS
๐ 02026/09/28
@Lup1nPlaysYouTube
The film becomes a lot less visually interesting when you have to just imagine what the ships looks like because the two ships met head on but you can only see the bottom of one ship.
๐ 02026/09/28
@yxxng1z943YouTube
why would i purposely ruin a show for myself by policing the obvious lack of scientific research hollywood puts on sci-fi shows? ignorance is bliss sometimes
๐ 02026/09/28
@Professor_RhoYouTube
The Expanse handles it well with inertial responses and orbits but no universe is perfect
๐ 02026/09/28
@Nikarus2370YouTube
โ@worm_less If you and all your teammates can agree quickly on what commands mean, and relative bearings of things from your group... makes things just a bit easier to keep track of with our monkey brains that are made for living on planets (And the majority of sci-fi alients who also developed in gravity wells and have an intrinsic expectation of a common orientation).
So groups tend to orient similarly, either to the plane of the local solar system when in deep space. Or if near a planet they orient relative to the surface. Of course if any units are particularly armored/shielded that may change orientation a bit depending on where enemies are coming from
๐ 12026/09/28
@WicklustYouTube
I also can move relatively unrestricted in 3 dimensions but I still stand in front of people while talking to them or tend to stay behind them if I am following them
๐ 02026/09/28
@davidclark7316YouTube
Only a complete sociopath pulls up to another ship and smdowsnt orient to their relative positioning.
๐ 02026/09/28
@OrionsVoicesYouTube
Well the entirety of space itself sorta probably dosent, galaxys do. Especially the milk way. We are sort of a disc shap so up and down are arbitrary but would probably be established as a universal way to be able travers easier. With that cardinal directions would also probably be established.
๐ 02026/09/28
@frosty3770YouTube
@worm_less because of the ecliptic plane in most solar systems
๐ 02026/09/28
@HrafnaValkyrjaYouTube
I like to think they align along the ecliptic plane of whatever system they're in. Space doesn't have an "up" or "down", but it does have a normal / anti normal and pro/retrograde rotation that's pretty universal on a per-star level, because the planets around a star all come from the same accretion disc. In deep interstellar space they probably use the galactic disc (spiral galaxies also have a short of ecliptic plane). So realistically, what we should see...
Is ships sometimes coming in upside down.
Like seriously. Imagine you're flying around inside a whatever and in warps a freaking *upside down star destroyer* lol.
๐ 02026/09/28
@HrafnaValkyrjaYouTube
These shows are usually set in a spiral galaxy like the milky way. Those galaxies have a sort of ecliptic plane (the "disc" the arms are aligned on). My bet is that they align along the galactic plane when in interstellar space, and along the ecliptic plane of the local planets when in a star system.
You should still see ships coming in upside down though...
Unless, more realistically, they just chose an arbitrary side of the galaxy as "up" kinda like we did with our solar system (it's almost always shown with Earth North facing up).
Space doesn't have directions, but the stuff in space does.
๐ 12026/09/28
@ThomasFox56YouTube
While we're on the topic of scifi space physics: why are the starships in Star Wars so god damn loud in space? Because you shouldn't have been able to hear a single damn thing...
๐ 02026/09/28
@mondaynugget6503YouTube
Enders game wins again
๐ 02026/09/28
@worm_lessYouTube
โ@Sharpspider543 okay, that makes sense, thanks!
๐ 02026/09/28
@elliott0234YouTube
When I play space games I have to give myself my own up orientation.
๐ 02026/09/28
@ArcanefungusYouTube
Two alien species known for their politeness meet and proceed to spend a ninetysixth of a sol day trying to align to the other, who themselves is trying to do the same
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2. My highschool physics class introduced newtons laws, universal gravitation, and friction. We didn't talk about no Neil De'Grasse Tyson Ph.D research.
3. Once again: Movies do this for convenience. They aren't having two ships meet in the middle of a virtually infinite empty ocean because the waves just so happened to push the ships in the same direction. The director did it because it'd be a god damned boring fucking movie otherwise.
Also I just noticed you said accretion disk instead of galactic plane. An accretion disk is when orbitting matter is losing angular momentum to friction with other orbitting matter, there are thousands of these inside galaxies, all at different angles, so it's not a great measure of orientation. Even using the central black holes accretion disk isn't great because it's not easy to see, so you should just use the galactic plane. And there is no "galactic accretion disk," that just doesn't exist
The galaxy is rather flat disc shaped, so is the rest of the observable universe
Also, the engines are usually in the back
Well yes. The navigation officers can plot courses to make this happen.
So groups tend to orient similarly, either to the plane of the local solar system when in deep space. Or if near a planet they orient relative to the surface. Of course if any units are particularly armored/shielded that may change orientation a bit depending on where enemies are coming from
Is ships sometimes coming in upside down.
Like seriously. Imagine you're flying around inside a whatever and in warps a freaking *upside down star destroyer* lol.
You should still see ships coming in upside down though...
Unless, more realistically, they just chose an arbitrary side of the galaxy as "up" kinda like we did with our solar system (it's almost always shown with Earth North facing up).
Space doesn't have directions, but the stuff in space does.